I always found one western view particularly interesting in this post 911 world of ours, and that is the idea that if and when a Muslim ever does something nutty all 1.5 billion are expected to condemn and protest. If this doesn’t happen then Muslims forfeit the right to complain about anything happening to them. What I always found odd about this concept is that no other people on planet Earth are expected to do the same, especially with regards to a religion. Case in point:
Five Jewish teenagers have been charged with hate crimes for attacking a Pakistani-American man with brass knuckles in the Midwood section of Brooklyn and calling him a “terrorist,” officials said.
Shahid Amber, 24, said in an interview last night he was eating ice cream near a Dunkin’ Donuts at the corner of East 15th Street and Avenue M, when he was approached by a group of five teenagers at about 8:15 p.m. on October 29. They knocked the ice cream from his hands, called him a “terrorist” and told him: “Go back to your country,” he said.
The teenagers held his arms behind his back and began beating him with a pair of brass knuckles, breaking his nose and leaving his torso covered in bruises, he said. Doctors told him he would need surgery to correct the damage done to his face. [source]
Now this piece of news is destined to go unnoticed, but I would appreciate an apology from the state of Israel or at the very least a get well card from AIPAC perhaps?
icecream.. now that is truely a “TerroriST” ACT…. u really think israel would appologize?? wa card kaman??hmmm *sigh* ya 7asra…
Dino…it’s sarcasm…keeps me alive these days 🙂
ya 7aram !
but you know ?! jd da7aktny w sharo elbaleyyate ma yod7ek !
2al ye3tezro 🙂
“I would appreciate an apology from the state of Israel or at the very least a get well card from AIPAC perhaps?”
Wishful thinking on your part.
perhaps we as a collective should raise are hands to the sky and yell out “SERENITY NOW. SERENITY NOW” see if that works
Yeah these Jewish punks
They’ve attacked a church in NY frequented mostly by Palestinians causing serious damage; they had to collect money and stay quiet about it for its renovation. The parish offices and the priest home were spray painted and the priest had to hear cussing when ever he leaves home. In this case itâ??s clear that this church was singled out by these Jewish persons because itâ??s Palestinian Orthodox.
These are just some punks, got nothing to do with their religious identity.
But hey, whatâ??s kosher for others isnâ??t kosher for you!
Well Nas, here is how it looks to them (this is not my opinion,Ù?ذا Ù?Ù?س رأÙ? Ù? Ø¥Ù?Ù?ا تÙ?ضÙ?Ø Ù?Ù?صÙ?رة ÙÂÙ? اÙ?غرب) : Islam is a religion that encourages hate and killing people, that’s why you see all these masked men in Iraq,Gaza,Saudi,Afghasnitan,Euorpe. All terrorist attacks carried against the US, Europe,Arab world were done int he name of Islam and Jihad, Muslims are not integrating in Westren societies, they must hate us and hate our values and so on.
It’s funny though, because the most isolated community in Western countries are the Asians, but you don’t see them on TV holding guns, or strapped in an explosive belt.
Anyways,someone is trying to portray Muslims as the new Nazis of this century after the USSR has collapsed so after 50 years, when most muslim countries are secular, then it will be the Asian’s turn and so on.
Now Icecream in Nov?
I hate it when Jewish people have a grudge against ice cream eaters. It really bothers me.
a few extremists kill 3 thousand Americans, and 1.2 billion Muslims have to bear the burden and have to be forever apologetic and their religious teachings have to be re-written.
500,000 Arabs are killed by cruel iraq sanctions before 911 and 750,000 Arabs are slaughtered in iraq after 911 so the west can feel secure, and no apologies, no soul searching, except we get a Hitler-youth Pope telling us we are violent people.
amazing how the decks is stacked so that no matter how many of us Arabs are killed it never reflects negatively on Wester values and religions.
Sick world.
“a few extremists kill 3 thousand Americans, and 1.2 billion Muslims have to bear the burden and have to be forever apologetic and their religious teachings have to be re-written”
Let’s not forget the many Muslims throughout the Muslim world and in Europe rejoicing over the attacks as well, and I’m not talking about the video in Palestine either.
We have to bear for it even worse when misguided Muslims rejoice over the attacks.
Denial, your killings of Arabs lasted for centuries from crusades and passing through colonialism where untold millions have perished. and not an apology was made from any european country, at the same time the French, who refuse to apologize for the genocide against arabs in Algeria, outlaw Armenian “genocide” denials.
with the backdrop of the crimes of colonialism, palestine, lebanon, afghanistan, and iraqi how dare you come and talk to me about the rimes of few fanatics who acted independently and whoses crimes loo like kids play when compared to your centuries of genocide.
and remember that all of the western and jewish crimes were committed by a majority vote in those western countries.
fact is, when you combine ALL the terror victims of extremist Muslims they don’t add up to a month’s death toll in Palestine, Afghanistan, and Iraq. but to you, that’s not casue for soul-searching or reflection. it’s not an indictment of your corrupt values. it’s White Makes Right.
[quote comment=”14758″]Denial, your killings of Arabs lasted for centuries from crusades and passing through colonialism where untold millions have perished. and not an apology was made from any european country, at the same time the French, who refuse to apologize for the genocide against arabs in Algeria, outlaw Armenian “genocide” denials.[/quote]
I’m not a Westerner. I’m actually of Pakistani descent. The problem with Arabs they for the most part continue to deny the fact that they have killed more of their own than anyone else has.
Nice lame assumption you made about me being white lol
And believe me, I’m no fan of European colonialism, but it’s a cop-out from all the problems that plague the Muslim world.
[quote]with the backdrop of the crimes of colonialism, palestine, lebanon, afghanistan, and iraqi how dare you come and talk to me about the rimes of few fanatics who acted independently and whoses crimes loo like kids play when compared to your centuries of genocide.[/quote]
Stop being so dramatic. You want me to list the atrocities committed by Muslims? Here ya go:
– General Yahya Khan slaughtering Bengali Muslims in 1971
– Saddam Hussein slaughtering the Kurds and Iranians using chemical weapons.
– Suharto slaughtering 200,000 East Timorese Christians in East Timor
– Taliban slaughtering Shi’a Hazaras, committing war crimes comparable to the Serbs killing the Bosnians. Yet many Muslims around the world and including the West support the Taliban and regard them as a true Islamic model. What a joke.
– King Hussein and General Zia ul Haq slaughtering Palestinians during Black September.
– Turkish slaughter of 1.5 million Armenian Christians.
– The in-fighting between various mujaheddin groups in Afghanistan
– President Hafez al-Assad murdering 40,000 Muslims and levelling the city of Hama
– The Amman bombings on Nov ’05 where Zarqawi even proudly claimed responsibility for the attacks.
– The 1932 massacre of Assyrian Christians in northern Iraq by the Iraqi military
– The slaughter of Zoroastrians during Arab occupation in Persia
– the persecution of Baluchis, Kurds, Baha’is, and Azeris in Iran
– the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt by fanatical Muslims
– ethnic cleansing in Darfur
Now how can you claim that the colonialists butchered more Muslims yet its our own Muslims that have done the worst damage possible?
[quote]and remember that all of the western and jewish crimes were committed by a majority vote in those western countries.[/quote]
And remember the fact that the people in those Western countries don’t always vote based on foreign policy.
[quote]fact is, when you combine ALL the terror victims of extremist Muslims they don’t add up to a month’s death toll in Palestine, Afghanistan, and Iraq. but to you, that’s not casue for soul-searching or reflection. it’s not an indictment of your corrupt values. it’s White Makes Right.[/quote]
What about the atrocities listed above? Convenient that you didn’t bother mentioning those. I wonder why? Perhaps its the politics of victimization many Muslims often use.
Wallah, it’s sad how we came to this level of humiliation.
The sheep is only dreaming about an apology from its slaughter, yet the sheep is accused of staining his clothes with some blood. Really sad
The state of Israel is a lie, No apology is required from an occupier and there will never be Peace with Those blood suckers till we win our rights back the same way they took it from us. Only then they might respect us or at least listen to us
“What about the atrocities listed above? ”
Your numbers were taken from the AIPAC Book on Historical Facts and from Danial Pipes Book on Truth. I accept your numbers in the same manner I accept Santa
But for Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon, there are independent reports, UN reports, and Red Cross reports to back the numbers. Get me reports from credible sources then come and talk to me.
[quote comment=”15038″]”What about the atrocities listed above? ”
Your numbers were taken from the AIPAC Book on Historical Facts and from Danial Pipes Book on Truth. I accept your numbers in the same manner I accept Santa
But for Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon, there are independent reports, UN reports, and Red Cross reports to back the numbers. Get me reports from credible sources then come and talk to me.[/quote]
I did not get them from AIPAC nor from Daniel Pipes. I think Pipes is a opportunist idiot and I take what he says with a grain of salt.
I’m sorry your retarded ass can’t handle the fact that more Muslims have murdered other Muslims than anyone else.
You cannot deny the fact that General Yahya Khan has slaughtered more Bengali Muslims than the West killed Iraqis(according to recently declassified doccuments where a Pakistani government commission headed by Justice Hamidur Rehman found that the Pakistani army was guilty of widespread human rights violations, including mass murders of civillians & raping thousands of Bengali women). You cannot deny the fact that the Taliban slaughtered the Hazaras in worse fashion then Israel could to the Palestinians(Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch can attest to the number of mass graves YOUR Islamic model has committed). You cannot deny the fact that Hezbollah backer Syria has murdered 40,000 Muslims in the city of Hama in 1982. So by what logic can you lambast the West for Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon when Muslims cannot denounce the past atrocities committed by previous Muslim rulers?
By the way, can you display PROOF that I got it from AIPAC. No you can’t, because you are nothing but a hypocrite, shouting bloody murder when Palestinians get killed, but say nothing when Muslims murder other Muslims. Go blow yourself up for your aspirations of a regressive Islamic state.
I’m sorry Nas for this hostile post, but he asked for it, and as I always say, dish it out, expect it back in return.
It seems like Arabs as a whole cannot be willing to be self-critical. They’re not entirely innocent either.
I don’t like to edit comments but there is no profanity on this blog and there are no personal attacks.
On another note: Danial, stop generalizing.
get me credible reports from an independent party before you waste my time with your empty quotes.
But even if your numbers are true, which no credible party seems able to verify, you are not interested in Arab self-criticism, you want to support the argument that arab lives are worth nothing when compared to white lives. and that somehow we collectively deserve to be punshed.
you have offered nothing to counter my original post about the mass slaughter of Arabs at the hands of Christin whites.
and if you are Pakistani then I am Chinese.
So you lied about the stats and your lied about your identity. way I see it, you are genetically predisposed to lie. That means you are an Israeli.
[quote comment=”15159″]get me credible reports from an independent party before you waste my time with your empty quotes.[/quote]
Ironic since you have yet to provide your credible reports either. The only things you mentioned are the same ol’ garbage that most Arab/Muslim continues to cling on to in the face of constant criticism.
Face it, we are NOT perfect.
[quote]But even if your numbers are true, which no credible party seems able to verify, you are not interested in Arab self-criticism, you want to support the argument that arab lives are worth nothing when compared to white lives. and that somehow we collectively deserve to be punshed.[/quote]
I’ve provided specific examples, whereas you did not.
And you’re wrong, I am very interested in self-criticism by Arabs and Muslims. The same people whom you most likely to be considered sell-outs simply because they don’t stay silent when our own commit atrocities.
[quote]you have offered nothing to counter my original post about the mass slaughter of Arabs at the hands of Christin whites.[/quote]
Actually, I did. I provided countless examples of slaughter of civilians committed by Arabs/Muslims.
You are living in a world of denial, as always.
If you’re Jordanian, perhaps you should look up how King Hussein and Pakistani General Zia-ul Haq slaughtered Palestinians in 1970.
I just find it very hypocritical that the rest of the Muslim world expressed outrage over Sabra and Shatila yet didn’t say a single thing when Hafez al-Assad levelled the city of Hama and killing 40,000 Muslims in that same year, in one example.
[quote]and if you are Pakistani then I am Chinese.[/quote]
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[quote]So you lied about the stats and your lied about your identity. way I see it, you are genetically predisposed to lie. That means you are an Israeli.[/quote]
And I didn’t lie about any of my stats. Do a search if you’re really that interested.
LoL I am an Israeli now? That’s getting old.
On another note, how about you dissect my claims using YOUR evidence? I’m waiting…
Nas, sorry for generalizing, but I’m just seeing it as it is.
has anyone else noticed that danial’s “point” (such as it is) is exactly the kind of thing that nas was talking about in this post?
let’s say, for the sake of argument, that danial is right. that muslims have killed a whole lot of muslims. what exactly is his point? are all the muslim commentators here supposed to get on their knees and apologize for murders that they personally have not committed?
danial’s entire argument is so ironic coming after this particular post