Marwa Al-Sherbini: Killed For Wearing A Headscarf But At What Point Do We Say “Enough”?

Let me break down this story to see if I have it right (if anything, for my own sanity).

A 31-year old, headscarf-wearing Egyptian Muslim woman, Marwa Al-Sherbini, who was about four months pregnant, takes her German neighbor to court for calling her a “terrorist”. Now, in the courtroom, the neighbor, Alex W., stabs her 18 times right in front of her 3-year old son.

Her husband, a research fellow, tries to come to her rescue and ends up not only getting stabbed as well by the attacker, but is actually mistaken for the attacker and shot by the security guard.

This case was so mind-baffling when I read it a few days ago and I still haven’t been able to wrap my mind around it. Many questions and thoughts have been floating around in my head, and I hate to admit it but the most pertinent one that rests right at the foreground of my brain is based on two words: 18 times.

I am not a forensic scientist but I’ve seen enough Hollywood movies to know that stabbing someone 18 times isn’t a task that you get done in 5 or 10 seconds unless you’re the cyborg or a robot sent from the future. 18 times.

How long did it take for people in the courtroom to realize this woman was being stabbed and that someone should do something about it?

18 times.

Seriously, try stabbing the wind 18 times right now as quickly as possible.

Go ahead.

I’ll wait.

See what I’m saying?

Oh, and add to that her husband getting stabbed three times by the same guy before the tragedy came to an end (with the husband being shot).

Now I know this is a question that might seem silly or even absurd in light of this event. I know a better debate is being framed elsewhere (thanks to Egyptian bloggers). I know that a great deal of the conversation that centers around this case has been with regards to the lack of western coverage (what did they expect?) and the outrage in Egypt (what did they expect?) and the outrage to come from the perhaps various parts of the Muslim world (what did they expect?) or the rising Islamophobia in the West (what did they expect?), but while all these conversations are valid and have their own time and context to consider, for some reason, I remain mesmerized by this number: 18.

18 times.

Strictly on a human level, how long does it take for someone to react. To move. To say “stop”. To say “enough”. Strictly on a human level. No religion. No gender. Just a human being watching one human being slaughtered by another.

How long does it take?

How does that number reach 18?

See, this is what’s been getting to me lately. In my head, this number, 18, rings incredibly significant. I recognize that there’s evil in this world, and that there always will be. There are breaking limits in this world and I recognize that too. There are numbers that weigh heavy on the human soul, and every one has one. It’s unmistakable. It’s undeniable. Often times we have absolutely no control over them and we relieve ourselves of any responsibilities. Like Tolstoy would put it, we pretend to simply be kings who are slaves to the whims of history. But often times, we do.

Often times, and not all the time, but some of the time, we do.

Often times these things happen right in front of us.

On our watch.

On our watch, these numbers take shape.

For Marwa Al-Sherbini that magical number was eighteen.

But what’s the body count in Iraq today?

What about the West Bank or Gaza?

What about in Darfur?

What’s their magic number? What’s their breaking limit?

At what point do we say “enough”?

More importantly.

At what point will we mean it?

132 comments
กันสาด
กันสาด

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Asif
Asif

Today is 1st July and it been three years but i heard this story today, may be because lack of interest from media. Muslim, Christians , Jews, Hindus, Buddhist , whatever, these are believes came hundred of years back based on spiritualism, modern world is globlaised, we are the same human being inside. World is getting globalisrd day by day, people travel faster than ever, we see all ethnic groups in all parts of the world, stop judging people from their religion , colour or race. I am pleased to see comments from all parts of the world taking it as a HATE CRIME. Make the world a safe place for everyone. Definition of terrorist is one who spread terror or murders, he can be anyone, don't specify from his ethnic background or religion as no one wants be another Alex Wiens.

rolfen
rolfen

This is exactly what I thought. 18 times... Well the only explanation I got is in one of the comments, saying that there was no security in the room (and no metal detectors!). Sounds pretty German to me. They are like this until something happens. I bet they have changed courtroom regulation by now. Still no excuse.

fatima
fatima

the fact remains. westerm media have turned there attention to anything that sells and suits there individual needs and brings in the dollar. hijaab has been banned in many countries, the first being in belgium and the trend seems to passing along in western society. i then ask the pertinent question... what has happened to freedom of expression ?? where are the rights of women gone to ?? what has happened to the equlity and freedom that modern societies claim to posses?? is it not ironic that it is these very same modern first world countries that then portary such barbarrism and cruelty ?? whats more astonishing is that the world remains in silence.... coincidental that she is a muslim woman ? media thrives on islamaphobia and that is no secret. a quick fact... islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA. and if you didnt know that.... well then blame it on the media on not feeding you the correct information. the beauty of Islam is beyond expression. It is simply fear of the true religion that drives others into taunting and tainting a noble religion. you have your religion and i have mine. we have both been granted the gift of intellect , use it to distinguish between good and evil, between truths and false, between what is correct and that which is incorrect. Islam deserves the respect that it teaches and inculcates into its believers . . . let us shine the white flag and bring peace into this world through unity and love. let each religion live in harmony.

marwah
marwah

someone should of done something about it especially if she had the same name as me!

Azrinna
Azrinna

The fact that Marwa El Sherbini was stabbed 18 times AND her husband was stabbed 3 tmes + shot before the tragedy comes to an end is so mind-boggling that I smelt fish somewhere. I tried stabbing the air 18 times. It does not take 20 seconds. And heck, it does not even take 5-10 seconds. There is almost enough time for me to sing the chorus of Guns N Roses' song. Why wasn't the tragedy stopped in time? She could have survived if she received lesser stabbings. Her kid would not have to suffer the trauma of the scene where his mom was brutally stabbed and killed infront of him. Her husband would not have been stabbed and shot. All said and done, being a Muslim myself, I say that her time is up. Allah wanted her to end that way to open our eyes and see what is actually happening under our very noses everyday, everywhere. If this tragedy did not happen, I doubt this much hype would happen. Allah is Great.

zainab
zainab

dear guys : i am 13 years old and the marwa al sherdini crime was the most horrible crime i have ever knew . i mean the women was killed for wearing a veil i mean come on and in front of her 3 year old son.Also , while her husband was defending the security guard shot him ,

mohammad
mohammad

hi. be sure that Germany more than any country in the world defends the law and human rights. and be sure that It is possible to stab someone 18 times when police officer cant see the murderer and is shocked by the incident . so first SEE THE MOVIE if there is any.. and then imagine yourself in the police officer's place. then consider that the man was accused by the court and were fined for 750 euros just for calling her a terrorist. and see the man in jail. and now OK that man was a racist or Nazi. he is a murderer and is guilty and that was a real tragedy and I'm also very unhappy about that . but that was not judge's fault. nor the police officer. not Europe. they were shocked too because they were supporting Marwa... so Muslims must not judge everything without thinking. and ignore the reality because that's exactly what the real terrorists want. I defend Marwa (peace upon her) and I hope All the courts have a program to prevent such things all over the world. but thats my idea. when all religions make such grate hates why should we show off our religion? in a time when extremist want to take advantage of that. like 'Nazi', 'Islamic extremism', 'Zionist extremism','even christian extremism in ancient times' and... isn't our life by itself holy? isn't out development and justice holy? isn't a girl or a boy who happily laughs and make love holy? so why we want to develop things that at the end will makes us hate others or make others hate us for nothing. think about it... please...

Nas
Nas

H de Pup: you're comment was frankly idiotic. it is the kind of blindman instance that we, in the muslim world, do not speak out against extremists and terrorists. Jordan just marked the 4th year since suicide bomber killed dozens in hotels in our capital. the next day there were tens of thousands of people marching in protest of these extremists and calling for zarqawi's head.

H de Pup
H de Pup

All hate crimes should be condemned unconditionally. Including those committed against the victims of 11 Sep 2001, and many many others, murdered by jihadist racists in the name of Islam, only because they were perceived as Jews and Christians, Hindus and Buddhist. I cannot understand, and it makes me very angry, that not a SINGLE demonstration has been organised anywhere in the world, ever, in the name of Islam, against the racist savagery perpetrated by jihadists on a daily basis. Judging from some of the Islamo-fascist reactions drained in stomach wrenching self-pity found on this website I do not expect to find any clarifications here. May Marwa ash-Sherbini rest in peace.

Sesame
Sesame

The Real problem is: a) a woman was murdered b) the murderer's freedom of speech had been denied ...& you chose b)? Really? Hmmm In this particular situation, nothing matters more than the loss of this innocent life. Nothing. Which isn't to say that freedom of speech isn't an important topic - it is. But in this situation, it's mind-boggling that you would opt for b) as the 'real' problem. Also, do you think freedom of speech should cover any & every kind of speech? Slander, libel, defamation? Incitement of hatred?

The Real Problem Here
The Real Problem Here

The real problem here is that "Alex" should never have been charged money for speaking his mind. Germany needs to adopt Free Speech laws. Now all the Muslims in Germany know that speech in Germany is indeed, not "free" -- it cost 760 Euros. You people in Germany need to speak out for Freedom of Speech and the judge should have thrown out that case that she filed. It was NOT reasonable of Marwa to file a case against someone in the West where people have always been free to speak their minds. She stepped on an egg and it exploded. Stay away from the eggs, hijab.

IndianaJohn
IndianaJohn

I just can't understand why this woman would go Germany to be stabbed.

arv
arv

Thank you for your thoughts of peace, Rezah Farouq. It is so true that a group of radicals tend to make positive change so much more difficult since they tend to utterly misrepresent the larger group. If more people concentrated on spreading understanding for different cultures and expressed interest in getting to know them and focused on the positive attributes of faith (and religion) = love and caring, be it Islam, Judaism, Christianity or any other religion, we wouldn't have these types of killings. Atrocities they all are - regardless of of who killed whom. Whether the killer here was deranged or not - racism and hatred most definitely played a part. Spouting hatred back at certain groups of people who happen to be affected by the violence (this time) and getting into a pissing contest over who was at fault, is, as usual, unproductive. It is sad that some people use forums such as these to express their hatred rather than doing everything in their power to counteract and change it. Being German myself, I also think German society needs to wake up and realize that reality is that people will hurt each other. People deserve more protection in the courtroom. Not having police present, not having metal detectors in place and not being aware of what is going on around you is not only dangerous but embarrassing. For a country that prides itself in its great intellectual wealth and knowledge, we still have a ways to go when it comes to awareness of reality and caring for all our people - regardless of what we look like and what religious group we belong to.

Zeeshan Amjad
Zeeshan Amjad

This is too much shocking, May her soul and her unborn child's soul rest in peace..

Respect hijab
Respect hijab

J.doe or whatever your name is, are you sure your not related to the killer in question? you seem to have ignored what the reality of this subject is. the poor lady was stabbed to death and no one stopped that crual creature becuase their either a coward or they dont want to interfere because after all if one muslim (terrorist) dies it will benefit the messed up western sociaty. what pple need to know is that if you kill one a thousand are born everyday and no matter how much they try they cannot wipe us out. Sure this world is not for muslims unfortunately we will see these things more often as we are near to the end and dont forget for sincere muslims we have been promised paradise and im sure this is where Marwa and her family will be. the media didnt get involved becasue they didnt want to anger the muslims around the world as they know we will want answers for what happend to sister Marwa. you see a muslim would interfere in situations like this because we value life and speak against injustice but these pple will watch you die and get counselling for watching someone die. munafeek (hypocrics) they conceal their own faults and show what others have done and headline the word (MUSLIM) when they see or hear 'the word Muslim' they hear sirens! im not hear to spread hatred but on a human level if christians, jews, hindu or pple belonging to any other religion except Islam, just think what if feels likes to be a muslim then you too would be angered Peace!

PN-Indonesia
PN-Indonesia

Innalillahi Wa'inna Ilahi Rajiun..... Ya Rabb Terima lah Hamba-Mu ini Disisi Terbaik bersama Orang-orang yang mati Syahid....Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar...

Mitch Nellerson
Mitch Nellerson

I believe it was Mitch that said that Alex was not necessarily a civilised practicing Christian Well, for starters, you cannot report what isn't true. Since the man is from Russia, there is a very good chance he is an atheist or at least has little involvement with any religion. Why would they report him as being a "civilized practicing Christian" if he wasn't? Europeans with their partner US are responsible for use of atomic bomb over Japan when the war was about to end. Europeans had no involvement in the bombings of Hiroshima or Nagasaki, and the war wasn't "about to end," as you put it, when the bombs were used. In fact, the top leaders in Japan only narrowly agreed to surrender after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Ahsan
Ahsan

Be remember when at Tianmen Square in China, hundreds were murdered and the media of China was not reporting the case in true manner, this was the European and US media which was saying that mis-reporting or not reporting something in media is a crime. What is your opinion when this media is not reporting the case of Marwa. Also imagine 18 knife wounds over a human being take time, it can not be happened in one or two seconds. It all happened in the presence of more than a dozen people including a Judge. What was the role of 'so respectable' Judge and all presents in whole episode. Salute the responsibility of guards, who opened fire on the husband of Marwa. My friends, all this is not new, Europeans including Germans are not having a responsible citizen track record. Europeans were responsible for two wrold wars. Europeans with their partner US are responsible for use of atomic bomb over Japan when the war was about to end. Europeans are responsible for massacre of Iraq without any proof of so called 'Mass Destruction Weapons'. Europeans are responsible for destroying Afghanistan without Afghans involvement in 9-11 (Note that all media reports held Saudis responsible for 9-11). Europeans are blood suckers of third world. They made most of the Asia and Africa their colonies and theft all valuables of these regions during 18th and 19th centuries. Their crimes are countless.

Sam
Sam

I believe it was Mitch that said that Alex was not necessarily a civilised practicing Christian and that this is not necessarily important to the matter--so then why is that when a Muslim committs a crime, it is necessary to report it each time....hmmm, i wonder. It is sickening to not have heard about this in the news--i heard about it by word of mouth through some friends. There are too many unanswered questions regarding what happened in the courtroom and how this could occur. I wish the best for Marwas family and hope that her son finds peace as this will eventually be most difficult for him.

Natalia
Natalia

imagine..a police saw a robbery and he had Bystander_effect .. .. .. .. lols..never happen.. Actually, he was called in from a different part of the court building as the crime was happening, and shot the husband. So what happened there is actually a little bit more damning for him than for anyone else in that courtroom at the time. Confusion in such cases is common, and we will never know for certain if he was honestly reacting to what he believed her saw, or if he automatically assumed that a dark, Arab man was the attacker. Either way, it's of no small comfort to the bereaved family.

David Levy
David Levy

"you can rest assured that had a neo-nazi skin head had killed a pregnant jewish lady in court in similar circumstances the response from media, international outrage and reactions from leaders would have been completely different…" Absolutely Zofia. But, this is exactly what many Westerners, (not only Germans) deny, no matter what evidence is brought before them. They act like they've never heard of or experienced such an instance EVER! And, they'll pretend the same thing even if, today a Muslim killed a Jewish or Christian, pregnant lady in one of their courts, and there is the kind of media and political backlash like we all know that would lead to. The Western mindset has been programmed to see Muslims as perpetrators who are NEVER deserving of sympathy. This is no accident. It's that way by design. Many in the West view Muslims as "deserving" of the bad things that happen to them. If "Alex W" had been Muslim and Marwa Jewish or Christian, the Western media and leaders alike would have asked questions like, "Where are the moderate Muslims"? They would never have claimed that "Alex W" is a "lone wolf". He would have been portrayed as a product of Islam. As a product of a group. I ask now, "Where are the moderate Germans"? "Where are the moderate Westerners"? I am a Westerner, but I refuse to believe, follow or subscribe to the mainstream narrative of Muslims. IT'S A BLATANT LIE!!!

zofia
zofia

you can rest assured that had a neo-nazi skin head had killed a pregnant jewish lady in court in similar circumstances the response from media, international outrage and reactions from leaders would have been completely different...

c
c

also, the real anger (in addition to anger at this bigoted psychopath mr. axel) should be directed at the german courts (NOT the german people) for failing to provide adequate security. if one good thing can come from this tragedy i hope it will be the installation of security checks at ALL german courts and the presence of armed officers in EVERY courtroom, even those that hear smaller claims like marwa's.

c
c

first of all, i don't know about other western outlets but the BBC and the wire agencies all had very good coverage of this tragedy (that's how i learned about it), so i think many of you are jumping to unfair conclusions. yes, unfortunately it's probably true that the coverage would've been greater if he had been the one who was muslim... but on the other hand, if they'd both been white it would not have been reported internationally at all (and none of us would've ever heard about it).

muammarhafiz
muammarhafiz

BTW..i have christian/budhis/hindu/muslim friends.... we respect eachother.we live happily peacefully..our parents talk and had dinner together sometime. this shows that ANY RELIGION DONT TEACH THEIR FOLLOWERS to HAVE HATRED.! dont get brainwashed by any partys... I DONT THINK ANY PARENTS TEACH THEIR KIDS TO KILL OTHERS...be it muslim or whatever.. those so called JIHAD IS VERY CLOSE TO HELL..THEY RESPONSIBLE TO THOSE WHO DIED ON 9/11 and IN IRAG/AFGHANISTAN...THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM!THEY ARE THE TERRORIST THE KILLERS.. p/s somone is paying for you to get brainwashed.hahahaha

muammarhafiz
muammarhafiz

the "police officers" should resign.. imagine..a police saw a robbery and he had Bystander_effect .. .. .. .. lols..never happen..he just stood there?or he shoot the victim?...in this case..the "police officer" get Bystander_effect and shoot the victim.ha ha ha I HOPE GERMANS GOVERMENT WILL PROVIDE GOOD TRAINING FOR THEIR POLICE!and include ways to avoid Bystander_effect..hahahahahaha it doesnt matter christian/muslim/white/black/green/german/russian/alien or whatever.....in this case.....the POLICE is so motherfarking stupid and he should not be a POLICE!go ask any police if he had this "Bystander_effect"...if he does...HE IS A VERY STUPID OR UNPROFESSIONAL POLICEMAN!!!

Muddasir
Muddasir

Now GERMAN TERRORIST/KILLER/MURDERER is called "civilized, Christian Russian-German".

Muddasir
Muddasir

We can reacall the german slaughterism. I think we can compare germans with old apes who dont know what to do when to do and how to do. Apes just fight for nothing and gets nothing.

Natalia
Natalia

"How come no one else came to her rescue on stab no, 2, 3, 4…they all just continued to watch until stab number 18. Germany is very sick" Once again, I think it's important to remember the bystander effect when talking about this situation. Read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect And of course, you can stab someone pretty quickly, a great number of times. You just need sufficient rage and some prowess with a blade. I do think that the police officer who mistook her husband for the attacker was operating under a pretty common set of prejudices. Man of Middle Eastern origin? Must be a killer. Point. Shoot. It's a tragedy of enormous proportions, but labeling Germany as "sick"? I don't know about that. I'll never know what it's like to be Middle Eastern in Germany, however, so take that with a grain of salt.

zofia
zofia

The shocking part of this story is that it was allowed to happen in a 'civilised' country's courtroom with no one other than the woman's husband defending her. It wasn't a street crime. It happened under the noses of the authorities. She was stabbed 18 times......they let it happen in full view of the law. This means no one is safe. How come no one else came to her rescue on stab no, 2, 3, 4...they all just continued to watch until stab number 18. Germany is very sick

Mitch Nellerson
Mitch Nellerson

“Do you want us all to “concede” that Marwa’s story would have had the same treatment if she were Jewish or Christian and “Alex W” was Muslim? I want you to honestly consider that possibility, do some further research on what has and has not been covered by the German media, and then come to your own conclusion. Mitch I post this article also as evidence of this “imbalance” toward others such as Muslims, in the West. I don't doubt that there will always be those who discriminate unfairly against others, but an ongoing discrimination case in the U.S. is your evidence that the German media is biased? The university denies any wrongdoing in her firing and cites other reasons for terminating her employment in other reports. There is more than one side to this story and claiming Islam doesn't make you honest by default. Lets not forget that Muslims in the United States have cried wolf before. In fact, like other minority groups seeking the pity of the public, they've done it plenty of times. This woman may an honest victim of discrimination or she may just be trying to get back at her employer for personal gain. I'm sure an ongoing investigation by the EEOC will help to clarify the situation. In any event, the coverage given to this woman by major news outlets suggests her claims were not ignored because she was a Muslim. It's just the opposite: countless non-Muslim women file complaints of discrimination by employers each year and very few of these cases are seen on CNN.

David Levy
David Levy

Mitch I post this article also as evidence of this "imbalance" toward others such as Muslims, in the West. If you've read it already, my humblest apologies. I do not wish to take anything away about the topic at hand i.e Miss Sherbini's case. I put this here to show yet another example of the "standard" behaviour of the "tolerant" West towards Muslims. Georgia State University professor discriminated against Muslim woman 22/07/2009 09:00:00 AM GMT Comments (2) Add a comment Print E-mail to friend By Yvonne R. Davis Georgia State University stands behind a professor who discriminated against an Arab and Muslim woman Behind the tears she shed on CNN this past 4th of July weekend is a brilliant, brave and beautiful 25 year old woman by the name of Slma Shelbayah. A doctoral student in Journalism and guest professor at Georgia State University, it appears the system geared up against her in a most ill-mannered way. It seemed okay in 2008 for a University Professor to harass a Muslim student and get away with it. You ask why? The answer is, because they could, and also because an Arab "girl" who wears a Hijab can't demand respect from a professor who is the Graduate Director in the Department of Communications. A woman committed to following Islam and the call by the Holy Qu'ran to dress modestly has to swallow the tenured Professor's constant queries if she is "wearing a bomb" in her hair underneath that scarf. After all, this professor is beyond reproach. She penned eight books on presidential communication and rhetoric, including national identity, strategic failures and the pre-presidential and presidential rhetoric of Ronald Reagan. Her recent book Defining Americans puts Dr. Mary Stuckey in the position as "Commander In Chief" of what it is to be an American and a person like student Professor Slma Shelbayah does not fit because she covers her head. When Dr. Stuckey who has appeared on CSPAN and active in the Women's Caucus was confronted by student Professor Shelbayah for these anti-Arab/Muslim comments, she just said, "sorry." However, to show how remorseful she was, with University approval she stripped Shelbayah of her guest professorship. Additionally, she lost her position in the Department of Middle East Institute Exchange Program and worst of all she lost her financial support to complete her doctoral studies. Shelbayah has been reduced to nothing because she wants her freedom of religion and expression to be upheld. In protest, tenured professor Dona Stewart stepped down as director of the University's Middle East Institute. She filed a discrimination complaint with the Justice Department. It is quite noble she is standing with Shelbayah. Stewart's job is safe. She received a promotion at Georgia State University and it will be interesting to see how hard she will continue to push to make sure that student Professor Shelbayah receives restitution for being treated as less-than for being Arab and Muslim. Professor Stewart should not be so naïve to think this issue is only about Civil Rights. Perhaps focusing on this aspect of it along gives her comfort to fight for justice. The Anti Arab/Muslim fight is perhaps too messy. Georgia State University should be ashamed for allowing a woman who in 2004 completed her Bachelors degree at this institution in only two years become reduced to this level of humiliation. By the way, Shelbayah received her Masters at Georgia State as well. The retaliation she received is thanks for her loyalty to Georgia State University. A determined young lady, when student Professor Shelbayah was 20-years old she pushed through her undergraduate education registering and completing between 16 to 18 hours worth of course work per semester while simultaneously holding a job at a bookstore and interning at CBS 46. She even taught religious and Arabic classes and interacted with youth groups. During one semester as an undergrad, she dedicated 30 hours or 10 classes to graduate in December. Do you really think a student like this deserves to have Dr. Stuckey who has won teaching awards from the American Political Science Association treat her this way? Maybe since Dr. Stuckey is interested in how political power is constructed and communicated this was a part of her qualitative research for her ninth book or 31st article on the "Rhetoric of Hatred -- How to Intimidate an Arab Woman by Telling Her Colleagues She Does Not Have a Bomb In Her Scarf?" Student Professor Shelbayah and her tenured supporter professor have a battle to fight, but if Georgia State University is an Institution of Higher Learning that it is supposed to be then it will not stand for any type of discriminatory practices against any student. Instead of "siding" with its star studded academic professor against a "lowly" Arab female student Professor, the leadership should take up this issue and not feel they have already dealt with the matter when they have done nothing. The Middle East Institute's leadership does not list one Arab/Muslim/Coptic professor on its web page. Something is wrong here. How can you promote and talk about the Middle East, when no one in your leadership is named Muhammad, Abdullah, Latifah or Shelbayah? Even the school's 2009 spring lecture series is pretty lame and does not give any more hope in having someone by the last name of Bukai or Shelbayah! African Americans know good and well if white advertisers, corporations and yes Universities want our attention they need to have someone who looks likes like us on their team in a leadership position. If one wants the attention of Latinos someone better habla Espanol! Institutions that ignore these simple facts are arrogant and exploitative. This sadly is not the first time this University has been down this road of discrimination. In 2007, it had a case filed by a female Asian Professor who was treated horribly and paid less then her counterparts. She heard comments such as "there are too many Chinese professors." Therefore, it is with great hope Georgia State University President Mark P. Becker steps in to resolve this issue immediately. As he considers his plan of action, he may want to ponder the words of our 44th President Barack Hussein Obama. "I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal, but I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality." -- Yvonne R. Davis, President and CEO of DAVISCommunications, is an internationally recognized leadership development coach, speaker, and award winning journalist. She is an expert in cross-cultural and global emerging markets. A hard-hitting political columnist, Ms. Davis is passionate about critical economic and socio-political issues in the Middle East, Central Asia, the Balkans, and Eastern Europe. She continues to play a crucial role in developing strategies to advance the status of women in these developing regions. Source: Middle East Online

David Levy
David Levy

"Do you want us all to “concede” that Marwa’s story would have had the same treatment if she were Jewish or Christian and “Alex W” was Muslim? Do you want us all to pretend that if Alex was Muslim, the spectre of “Islamic terrorism? would not have been brandished all over the Western world over and over by now??? Do you want us all to pretend that if Alex was Muslim, other Muslims would by now NOT have been required to condemn his misdeeds??? Do you want us all to believe that if Alex was Muslim and Marwa Jewish or Christian, the media and others in the West would by now not have singled out Islam as a religion and Muslims as a group, for at least some of the blame???" Above are the facts which you need to look at Mitch. I post them again as I did before, because they make up the reality of the situation, which I believe many in the West deliberately overlook. Look at them and tell us for real that this particular reading of events, are wrong...

Mitch Nellerson
Mitch Nellerson

Tell us Mitch… Do you seriously find it so necessary to try and argue away the blatantly obvious facts behind this case and its implications??? What blatantly obvious facts have I argued away? Opinions about the hearts of men are not facts, and neither is hyperbole offered without evidence. I don't claim familiarity with Germany's journalistic culture and I am open to possibilities that there may have been other factors involved which led to a lack of coverage. I don't take at face value the argument that every crime that is perpetrated by a Muslim in Germany receives national and international attention. I don't rule out that there may be bias, and that may explain the coverage of al-Sherbini's murder in part or entirely, but I see a lot of dubious comparisons by people who appear to know little more about German journalism that I do. I know that journalists in most Western countries tend to be more left-wing than the general public and are more likely to be sensitive to ethnic or religious minorities than your average man on the street. I can't say whether German journalists are an exception. Is it really so difficult to admit that the behaviour that has been unfolding in Europe is that, “some are not as equal as others”? That may or may not be the case. I don't recall much coverage outside of Germany over the killing of Morsal Obeidi a year ago, and I have no idea how long it took for the German media to pick up on this story. A story featured in the LA Times about another honor killing in Germany (the latest in a string of honor killings) mentions that "[s]uch crimes are rarely mentioned in Germany's newspapers." If the German media is as eager to pounce on Muslims as many here have claimed, then I have to wonder why they often fail to report such events. I don't take the lack of coverage of al-Sherbini's murder in isolation or rush to claim that I know what the German media would report when I haven't investigated what has been reported or unreported in the past. I don't rule out bias, but I don't claim certainty that bias explains the situation. Truth is not an enemy Mitch. No, of course it is not, but I get the impression that many people are not interested in the truth. Few people seem to avoid rushing to judgment in this case. I don't know all the answers and I'm honest enough to admit my ignorance. I would venture to guess that you're no more knowledgeable than I am about this topic, but you claim to know the truth beyond all doubt. With that in mind, may I recommend reading (or rereading) Plato's account of Socrates?

TK
TK

I am not surprised at all to hear about this tragic story, and the fact that it happened in Germany does not make me surprised at all. I have been five times to Germany, and each time I go there, I sense so much racism against myself and against Muslims. Theyway they talk about Muslims is disgusting. These people have no sense of political correctness, no respect for the other, no sense of shame. They think they are the self-appointed superior race on earth, and I in fact find some of them so stupid. It is completely a joke.

David Levy
David Levy

Tell us Mitch... Do you seriously find it so necessary to try and argue away the blatantly obvious facts behind this case and its implications??? Is it really so difficult to admit that the behaviour that has been unfolding in Europe is that, "some are not as equal as others"? What exactly is it that you would like to gain with the denials? Would you like for us all to agree with you that the way this case and others like it have been handled is "standard" in Europe? Do you want us all to "concede" that Marwa's story would have had the same treatment if she were Jewish or Christian and "Alex W" was Muslim? Do you want us all to pretend that if Alex was Muslim, the spectre of "Islamic terrorism? would not have been brandished all over the Western world over and over by now??? Do you want us all to pretend that if Alex was Muslim, other Muslims would by now NOT have been required to condemn his misdeeds??? Do you want us all to believe that if Alex was Muslim and Marwa Jewish or Christian, the media and others in the West would by now not have singled out Islam as a religion and Muslims as a group, for at least some of the blame??? Empires throughout history have fallen because of their "inability" at self-introspection and honesty. The Incas and Old Egypt were 2 cases in point. Truth is not an enemy Mitch. It is not a disease that will defeat us if we give in to it. Lets learn the lessons from others who have passed before us.

Rose
Rose

Security people in court and international Media has acted like racist as well, in this matter

Mitch Nellerson
Mitch Nellerson

She was killed by a “civilized, Christian Russian-German”. Lets not assume we know the man's religious beliefs beyond the obvious fact that he wasn't a Muslim. There is a strong possibility he had no religious beliefs and I think it is a bit silly to suggest that German journalists assume he is a devout Christian and, therefore, gave him a pass. I have not heard anyone insinuate that the killer was "civilized" or that al-Sherbini was "uncivilized." Whether the media would have given al-Sherbini's murder more attention if she had been a native German and the killer a Muslim given the circumstances, I don't know, but I am curious to hear some considered opinions on the matter. I know that honor killings committed by Muslims in Germany and a number of other crimes committed by Muslims in Europe haven't garnered much international attention beyond the blogs. I don't know how media coverage of some of these things compares with coverage of al-Sherbini's murder in Germany itself, and I don't know what kind of biases German journalists might hold. Her “killer” according to those media, was the “Iranian government”,the “hardliners”, “Islamic extremists”, the “brutal system” in Iran. Note well that he or she was NEVER referred to as a “lone wolf”. WHY? The individual who shot Neda was a member of a militia sanctioned and dispatched by the Iranian government to quell protesters. Neda was not the only one killed by this militia, only the most visible. (Did those other protesters killed in Iran receive much individual attention? Could you call all such militiamen who shot protesters "lone wolves?") No claim has yet been made that the killer of al-Sherbini was sanctioned or dispatched by the German government or that the murder of Muslims by hate-filled people in Germany is a recurrent problem. Also, the killer of al-Sherbini will almost certainly see his day in court and the killer of Neda will get a pat on the back. I certainly hope that al-Sherbini's killer receives the maximum sentence under German law. I'm sorry that Germany doesn't allow capital punishment since this man probably deserves as much. It's possible that if al-Sherbini's death and the events surrounding it had been captured on camera, the media might have taken greater interest, and maybe if al-Sherbini's death had occurred during the course of a mass movement, it would be all over the international networks. Neither happened. That's the way the media works: easy to explain narratives, strong imagery, and big events draw the most attention. Admittedly, that isn't always a good thing. Imagine Marwa was Jewish… Would we only know her killer as “Alex W”? Yes, this is standard legal procedure in Germany. Those accused, but not convicted of, serious crimes generally have their full names withheld. I see no good evidence that the identity of the victim would change this. They never skipped an opportunity to report the incident, often portraying it as a product of “Europe’s unfortunate neccssity to allow Muslim immigration”!!! That is, unfortunately, true. The killer of van Gogh would not have been in the Netherlands to kill the film-maker had the Netherlands refused to accept Muslim immigrants as Bouyeri was a second generation Dutch-Moroccan. Whether the death of van Gogh or other problems associated with Muslim immigration outweigh its benefits is another debate entirely. That debate is an important national question for the Dutch (and for Europeans), but not very relevant to our purposes. It might be noted that if Germany and the Netherlands refused to accept immigrants, van Gogh and al-Sherbini would not have been murdered. Poor Marwa is clearly not equal to a Dutch film maker or a Jewish person in the eyes of the Western media or governments. Few crime victims of any race or religion are going to be given the attention that van Gogh received due to his public persona before his murder. My death will not equal the death of Michael Jackson in the eyes of journalists either, but I don't lose sleep over it.

David Levy
David Levy

This case is a sad event (needless to say). It shows up the double standards prevalent in the West regarding Muslims and Islam. Let us compare... A young lady is killed in Iran during the post election violence. I think her name is "Neda". All the main Western media outlets ran her story for quite a period of time. (Definitely not just once off). Her "killer" according to those media, was the "Iranian government",the "hardliners", "Islamic extremists", the "brutal system" in Iran. Note well that he or she was NEVER referred to as a "lone wolf". WHY? Is it because Neda's tragic case can be served up by Western media for their own agenda? A case where the "cruel, backward Islamists" can be given the blame COLLECTIVELY. a case that can be used to further the anti-Islam agenda that we all know is there. However, poor Marwa's case does the exact opposite. She's a Muslim. She was killed by a "civilized, Christian Russian-German". If there is going to be fairness from the Western media, then a Muslim will actually have to be portrayed as a victim!!! Can you imagine that? Muslims as victims at the hands of the West??? It can't be and that's why "Alex W" is called a "lone wolf". In the West, Muslims are not victims. They are "perpetrators". That's the mainstream narrative. Jews on the other hand are always victims. Imagine Marwa was Jewish... Would we only know her killer as "Alex W"? How many times would the words "anti-semitic" have been thrown around on all the TV channels and in all the newspapers? Would the killer's identity have been hidden as it is right now? Would we know him only as "Alex W"? Would the German government and all other Western governments have disperectly downplayed the incident as they are doing now? Would "Alex W" be referred to as a "lone wolf", or a product of some heinous hate group tendency? When a Dutch film maker was killed by a Muslim extremist some time ago, after he made a film which is anti-Islamic by any standards, all the Western media went to town for months on end. They never skipped an opportunity to report the incident, often portraying it as a product of "Europe's unfortunate neccssity to allow Muslim immigration"!!! Poor Marwa is clearly not equal to a Dutch film maker or a Jewish person in the eyes of the Western media or governments.

ahmad
ahmad

Blind eyes of major western media like BBC and CNN in Marwa al-Sherbini case raised many question about thier role in conducting such event. many muslim believe that they are main responsibles for extending racism against Islam. Removing images of this anti human case from internet had a clear message for human rights fans. THERE IS NO RESPECT TO HUMAN RIGHT IN WESTERN COUNTRIES!!!

zizi
zizi

look marwa died in a horibble way that i cant describe.and that asshole stabbed her 18 times and infront of her three old son. and look i am a muslim myself i do not were A headscarf but look it doesnt make any sense A COURT WITH NO GUARDS ? BULLSHIT thats not a court and when the guards arrived instead of shooting the murderer they shot the husband on his leg.and i feel terribly sorry to her son he saw his mom being killed infront of him not to mention the mom is 4 month pregnant and this particular scene will always stay in his mind.this murderer is a violent,rascist,mently retarded and has no manners and he killed 2 souls the baby and marwa.and now a german organisation is defending him.MARWA WAS A VICTIM DUE TO RASCISM AND THIS PARTICULAR STORY IS A STORY THAT I WILL NOT FORGET.MAY SHE REST IN PEACE.

Mitch Nellerson
Mitch Nellerson

"In the States we have metal detectors prior to entering any courtroom buildings, I am sure as hell that Germany follows the same..how did this guy enter witha knife is my question?" The answer is no, German courts often do not have metal detectors just as they don't have security guards in every courtroom. For Americans, this sounds rather crazy, but security is relaxed in many European countries.

Eshita Bangladesh
Eshita Bangladesh

There is no value of bloods of Muslims in this world.Where is western media now?? probably they are not much interested in it.....

Blackcat
Blackcat

of course theres many cases involving muslim too like you say one cases of open fire.the problem is this time it happened in court!! can you ever imagine that.futhermore 18 times!! its not really a matter if the man brings in a knife and try to killed Dr Marwa but the fact that no one try to help and even security that is their job to SECURE..this is insane.can you see the difference now?

adnaan UK
adnaan UK

I am thinking, if that 3years old child (who's parents killed in front of his eyes), if he took any kind of revenge in the later stage of his age, what he'd be called, and to jane doe: This was not 'honor killing' this was ignoring fact of security because she was Muslim. and Do I have to remind you what American Soldiers being doing during Iraq war apart from killing them.that you won't called inhuman acts, grow up..

sarah
sarah

In the States we have metal detectors prior to entering any courtroom buildings, I am sure as hell that Germany follows the same..how did this guy enter witha knife is my question?

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